All in one v2.8 kit help

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Re: All in one v2.8 kit help

Postby Synthex » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:36 am

ICSP = In-Circuit Serial Programming
ISP = In-System Programming

It's the same thing.

But the two cables are different.
A cable for the Atmega and a cable for the 18F2550.
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Re: All in one v2.8 kit help

Postby Ken Forgettable » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:54 am

dmitri wrote:Is anything connected to the inputs?
Power it up while holding the key RIGHT pressed. Still the same problem?


Please check your keyboard is connected as per the (latest) Synthex PCB v2.8 Quick Manual.pdf *V2* schematic.
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Re: All in one v2.8 kit help

Postby dmitri » Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:48 am

hchriste wrote:The reason that I think the Atmega might be dead is taht I behaved very badly this night. :o :lol: In my frustrations I think I did some soldering with the IC in the socket. Plus I may have fumbeled around with the board without caring for statics a little to mutch. Once AGAIN I have learned not to try and solve these kind of problems in the middle of the night. Will I ever learn?

If Atmega is misbehaving but USB is working, can you confirm that you stopped receiving any MIDI data in the software?
If MIDI data is still there, check this thread: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=492
It might be the LCD rather than Atmega.
For programming Atmega you need an ISP cable and an LPT port on a PC.
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Re: All in one v2.8 kit help

Postby hchriste » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:07 pm

dmitri wrote:
hchriste wrote:The reason that I think the Atmega might be dead is taht I behaved very badly this night. :o :lol: In my frustrations I think I did some soldering with the IC in the socket. Plus I may have fumbeled around with the board without caring for statics a little to mutch. Once AGAIN I have learned not to try and solve these kind of problems in the middle of the night. Will I ever learn?

If Atmega is misbehaving but USB is working, can you confirm that you stopped receiving any MIDI data in the software?
If MIDI data is still there, check this thread: https://www.megadrum.info/forums/viewto ... ?f=3&t=492
It might be the LCD rather than Atmega.
For programming Atmega you need an ISP cable and an LPT port on a PC.


No there is no midi activity anymore.

Will the programming software accept an LPT to usb Adapter?
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Re: All in one v2.8 kit help

Postby dmitri » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:10 pm

hchriste wrote:Will the programming software accept an LPT to usb Adapter?

It should, but I didn't try it myself.
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Re: All in one v2.8 kit help

Postby hchriste » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:13 pm

OK so I checked the board again. And did measure ohm and V everywhere on the board. I actually found an error. For some reason I had fitted R2 with 100 ohm instead of 10k. Apart from that everything seems to be in perfect condition. Well if it was not for the nonresponding Atmega that is. I changed R2 to 10k, but if this error did some damage it is permanent because the Atmega still dos not respond.
Can you guys make a guess whether placing 100 ohm at R2 can do some fatal damage to other components?
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Re: All in one v2.8 kit help

Postby dmitri » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:29 pm

hchriste wrote:OK so I checked the board again. And did measure ohm and V everywhere on the board. I actually found an error. For some reason I had fitted R2 with 100 ohm instead of 10k. Apart from that everything seems to be in perfect condition. Well if it was not for the nonresponding Atmega that is. I changed R2 to 10k, but if this error did some damage it is permanent because the Atmega still dos not respond.
Can you guys make a guess whether placing 100 ohm at R2 can do some fatal damage to other components?

No, it would not damage it.
Btw, what crystal do you use for Atmega?

Can you try to take PIC18F2550 out of its socket and see if the LCD shows anything?
What are voltages on pins 10 and 30 of Atmega?
What are voltages on pins 11 and 31 of Atmega?
What are voltages on pins 1,2,3 of the LCD?

Did follow my advice from https://www.megadrum.info/forums/viewto ... ?f=3&t=492 starting from the second step?
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Re: All in one v2.8 kit help

Postby hchriste » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:52 pm

dmitri wrote:
hchriste wrote:OK so I checked the board again. And did measure ohm and V everywhere on the board. I actually found an error. For some reason I had fitted R2 with 100 ohm instead of 10k. Apart from that everything seems to be in perfect condition. Well if it was not for the nonresponding Atmega that is. I changed R2 to 10k, but if this error did some damage it is permanent because the Atmega still dos not respond.
Can you guys make a guess whether placing 100 ohm at R2 can do some fatal damage to other components?

No, it would not damage it.
Btw, what crystal do you use for Atmega?

Can you try to take PIC18F2550 out of its socket and see if the LCD shows anything?
What are voltages on pins 10 and 30 of Atmega?
What are voltages on pins 11 and 31 of Atmega?
What are voltages on pins 1,2,3 of the LCD?

Did follow my advice from https://www.megadrum.info/forums/viewto ... ?f=3&t=492 starting from the second step?


Problem persists without the PIC.
Pins 10 and 30 of Atmega is 5 V (VCC)
pins 11 and 31 is 0V (GND)

Pin 1 of LCD is 0V (GND)
Pin 2 of LCD is 3.2 V
Pin 3 of LCD is 2.9 V

Yes I looked at your LCD thread.
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Re: All in one v2.8 kit help

Postby hchriste » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:53 pm

dmitri wrote:
hchriste wrote:OK so I checked the board again. And did measure ohm and V everywhere on the board. I actually found an error. For some reason I had fitted R2 with 100 ohm instead of 10k. Apart from that everything seems to be in perfect condition. Well if it was not for the nonresponding Atmega that is. I changed R2 to 10k, but if this error did some damage it is permanent because the Atmega still dos not respond.
Can you guys make a guess whether placing 100 ohm at R2 can do some fatal damage to other components?

No, it would not damage it.
Btw, what crystal do you use for Atmega?

Can you try to take PIC18F2550 out of its socket and see if the LCD shows anything?
What are voltages on pins 10 and 30 of Atmega?
What are voltages on pins 11 and 31 of Atmega?
What are voltages on pins 1,2,3 of the LCD?

Did follow my advice from https://www.megadrum.info/forums/viewto ... ?f=3&t=492 starting from the second step?


I use the 16 MHz crystal
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Re: All in one v2.8 kit help

Postby dmitri » Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:59 pm

hchriste wrote:Yes I looked at your LCD thread.

And what were your findings? Is it Atmega or the LCD?
If it's Atmega, get the ISP cable and see if you can read/program it.
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